15 Comments

This has to be the worst researched article I have read from you.

1) You call those who disagree with you reactionaries, which shows your obvious political bent.

2) You are not a gamer. If you were, you would be aware that there is a huge disconnect between the legacy gaming press, which you constantly reference and gamers. The gaming press, tends to be far left. Gamers are not. In you want to hear the other side listen to YouTubers such as Critical Drinker, Nerdrotic, Geeks and Gamers, etc. You do not have agree with those views, but you have to be aware of them. In the word of John Stuart Mill, He who knows only side on side of the case know little of that" Quite frankly I am disappointed that you chose to hear only one side. You are better than that

3) There are people who play games and there are gamers. You are correct that both men and women pay games, but gamers are overwhelmingly males in their teens, 20's and 30's. When game studios overlook this, they lose money. Take for example Suicide Squad, Kill the Justice League. That one game, widely derided as woke, lost Warner Brothers $200 million, Star Wars Outlaws, in which the prime character looks like a 40+ year old woman, will likely suffer a similar fate.

4) You are correct, making money should be the prime objective of any company. But before you can make money, you have to get money. Larry Fink, CEO of Blackstone, which manages nearly 10 trillion dollars in assets, is the father of ESG, He stated in 2017, "You have to force change. You do that by requiring companies to have ESG programs in place to get VC or PE funding. So, Game studios have to keep their PE/VC partners happy, as well as their fans. That is extraordinarily difficult. The result has been that many smaller gaming studios have gone out of business and some of the larger ones are hurting. Meanwhile Asian studios, unencumbered by ESG, are booming.

There has been a widely held assumption in the entertainment and other industries that you will add new costumers if you go woke and still keep your old ones. That has proven not be true. The old ones leave in droves. Lucas Studios, the prime example of this, has yet to make back their purchase price of the studio from George Lucas. You can make a lot of money selling high fat ice cream to your demographic and be far left (Ben and Jerry's) It doesn't work nearly as well when you are selling Bud Light, tractor supplies or woke games.

5) Instead of calling the other side reactionary, you should actually listen to them. You do this in your other areas of research. Who knows? You might actually learn something.

Expand full comment

Thanks for the read and the feedback.

I think you're right on the verbiage. I had meant to put the initial use of the term "reactionaries" in scare quotes to nod to that's how they were *described* -- and I also tried to include links challenging this conception of #Gamergate, such as this one: https://medium.com/arc-digital/almost-everything-you-know-about-gamergate-is-wrong-c4a50a3515fb

But it looks like I forgot the quotes. And then there's a path dependency, where I ended up using consistent language thereafter, but you're correct, it's not the best way to describe critics of these maneuvers. So I've adjusted the language throughout.

With respect to the gap between legacy media and gaming publics -- here, I think I did try to draw attention to that explicitly at the outset. As I note, gamers seem to skew a little to the right of the general U.S. public, and far to the right of most game designers and cultural commentators.

Likewise, I did note that, for instance, men are much more likely to play games intensely than women, and so on. But, as I continue, from the perspective of gaming companies, the main takeaway they seem to be drawing from stats like this is that the "traditional" (white, Asian, male) market is likely approaching saturation -- they're super engaged at this point; studios can't get much more engagement or money out of them than they already are. So, they are gambling on trying to expand the market to other constituencies (more upscale/ educated folks, blacks and Hispanics, women) -- even at the risk if alienating some "traditional" constituents a bit. This gamble often fails -- it's a gamble! But they've also been seeing radically growing revenue, despite occasional flops. So that seems to be their calculation, I argued. And here, I'm confident based on my reviews of their outputs, that I *am* accurately describing their calculation, whether it's misguided or not.

Expand full comment

And here, I'm confident based on my reviews of their outputs, that I *am* accurately describing their calculation, whether it's misguided or not.

We agree that that is their calculation. The question is whether it is misguided. We also agree that gaming revenue has increased. However, who is spending that extra money? Is it the 'new audience " or is it gamers? I would argue that it is gamers. The move from single player campaigns to live service, MMO and MMORPG games has resulted in a change from many games from a one-time purchase to a subscription model. In addition, in game "micro-transactions" have greatly increased revenue.

THAT IS YOUR MAJOR DEMOGRAPHIC!!!

Therefore, if you want to enlarge your demographic you have to do it without irritating your core demographic. Until recently, game companies have done a pretty good job at this. As you point out, many games allow you to pick your sex and ethnicity. Some allow you to "romance" the NPC (male or female) of your choice. No one minds this. No one has ever minded this.

However, we are seeing the same trend in games as we are seeing in movies. White (and in some cases black) men are being demeaned in favor of gays and women. Even more curiously, women are being uglified. "The message" is changing in some games from optional to in your face. Not all games are doing this but the ones that do are losing money. They are losing money because their core demographic is not buying them. That core demographic includes blacks and Hispanics and I suspect that it also includes quite a few "highly educated men and women" Data show that more Blacks and Hispanics identify as gamers than whites. Blacks and women are among the You Tubers I mentioned, and they are neither woke or in favor of the woke movement in gaming

https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2015/12/15/who-plays-video-games-and-identifies-as-a-gamer/#:~:text=While%20there%20are%20no%20differences%20by%20race%20or,with%2011%25%20of%20blacks%20and%207%25%20of%20whites.

The "gamble" has failed with Star Wars and Marvel. It has failed with AnBev, Target and Tractor Supply. And it is failing with games. Listen to the other side and you will understand why.

Expand full comment

47% of those who play games have a college degree or higher. However, the percentage of those who describe themselves as gamers is lower for those with a college degree. See the appendix in the Pew Research reference. I believe that the reasons for are sociological and independent of woke content in games

Expand full comment

If you actually look at the numbers, what you are saying ("white men (and in some cases black) are being demeaned in favor of gays and" women" as well as "women are uglified") is entirely based on your opinion and perception.

Don't get me wrong, those things happen; however, the numbers do not back up a systemic impact (unless you focus your analysis on only a certain type of game, be it AAA studio games for example, but then be honest about that).

Finally, about the uglification of women in video games ... we could say the same about men, but please look at your fellow human beings as well as yourself in the mirror: we are all beautiful, yet, only very few of us meet the high standards of what is shown to us. Instead of uglification we should talk about re-calibration as well as stopping the mental abuse we are all subjected to by the discrepancy between our real lives and what is shown to us constantly.

Finally, the whole point of this substack is symbolic capitalism. I'd be damn if the author praises making money as a worthy goal and/or what we have to be doing going forward to heal our societies. I for once don't care about maintaining systems of oppression stemming from white supremacy in this country, even if that comes at the cost of money. We are all spending money on video games (me first, don't misunderstand me here) as a way of escapism (aka entertainment, we may lie to ourselves about that and that's okay, the point stands) so we all owe it to ourselves to realize that if we keep putting making money at the top of our value systems we are doomed to feeling miserable as most of us do and all of us in the end.

Expand full comment

Thank you so much for this thoughtful and thorough information on video games :-) a gamer at heart, I appreciate the attention to detail here. A long time ago I decided to not play online games anymore, download my games once only, do not use physical support anymore, and enjoy my only consol ever bought in the US (a 10-year-old bought-used PS4). We don't have to stop playing, just accepting the reality if our world (physically limited).

Expand full comment

From the Babylon Bee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xmXVUaafxs&t=49s

Expand full comment

This video was funny 🤣 thanks for sharing.

Now, you understand that humor exaggerate points to make them funny. Furthermore, the only reason why video game creators face gaming industry executive non-sense requests is because of our system solely focused on making money, you get that, right? The executives are all gambling on what will make money, they don't care about anything but money, they don't have any other agenda than money, their sole purpose is to make the company/stakeholders money.

If what I said above is wrong, explain why those company never lead social change but always try to capitalize from it? People lead social changes, company follow because they smell the potential money (new customers in a saturated market). We didn't start seeing a major shift to more adds with people of color in them before the Black Lives Matter movement, it happened after that.

Thus, this is not a new problem and attributing it to the social movements (like this comedy sketch is implying) is like standing firmly in the past while the times are changing ... good luck with that (you're only going to be bitter and feel unfounded resentment since all what people want is be treated with respect, they don't want your stuff, they just want to live).

TLDR: the problem is not wokeness, it has always been and will always be our obsession with this imaginary thing we call money.

Expand full comment

I get that making money should be the prime objective of any corporation. the problem is that going woke does not work. Go woke, go broke is more than just a meme. Look at Bud Light. Some young progressive ad executive decided that it would be a great ides to make a transgender person the face of Bud Light. The result: Bud Light lost over a billion dollars in sales, had to throw away unsold beer, watched stock price fail to recover, and gone from the No. 1 beer in the U.S to No. 3.

But the real poster child for Go Woke Go Broke is Disney. Lucas Films has yet to make back its purchase price for Star Wars despite releasing show after show aimed at a progressive audience. Park attendance is down, and the Indiana Jones, Dial of Dysentery set a record for most money lost on a movie. Disney stock is less than half of what it was in the Bob Chapek years.

Target, Tractor Supply and even Microsoft are cutting way back on DEI. Larry Fink at Blackstone is backing way off for his "force change comment" as his fabled ESG funds have dreadfully underperformed the market. So, it is pretty clear that it is YOUR stuff that people do not want.

Now you may think that going woke is a great idea. You are welcome to your opinion. But most people play games, watch TV and go to movies for escapism, not to have progressive politics shoved down their throats. You need to keep in mind that not everyone shares your political views and those that do not vote with their wallets.

You claim to have numbers: Let's see them. Be aware that I know how to read a 10K.

Republicans buy sneakers too: Michael Jordan

Expand full comment

I mean ... correlation is not causation my man ... You don't know if what you said (go woke) caused go broke. Notwithstanding the fact that going from making a shit ton of money to making less than a shit ton of money is not going broke ... they're still making money. Finally, you don't know if their move to woke didn't save them a bunch compare to not making the move (they could have lost more money because something else could be causing the lack of interest in Disney for example, oh I don't know, a recession/the inflation/covid?!).

Now, all that is not to say that some company have made moves to woke and that cost them, but once again that'd be just us linking events together while ignoring the many numerous other potential factors at play.

Also, not sure why you think I'm ignoring those that don't share my political views (that you don't know by the way) when I answered your comment because you ignored half of the population who's okay with "woke" as you'd say.

PS: what does it mean that you can read a 10K?

Expand full comment

You just proved my point. Instead of appealing to the 50% who share my views or the 50% who share yours, why not double your profit by eliminating the political bull and design games that appeal to both sides.

A 10K is a detailed financial report that all publicly traded companies are required to provide to investors on quarterly basis.

Expand full comment

That's interesting, so what makes you think video games (can/should) appeal to every gamer? Isn't that the point of genres anyway? Given that, what's wrong with some games appealing to some demographic?

Also, that has been the case with video games mostly appealing to white man for so long. To me, it seems that now that some games don't anymore, some of us can't take it ... Just play the games you like and accept that you won't like all games anymore (gamer entitlement anyone?!).

Expand full comment

Also, that has been the case with video games mostly appealing to white man for so long.

Wrong Again. More blacks and Hispanics call themselves gamers, as a percentage of their population, than whites. And blacks more commonly find positive attributes in video games than other ethnic groups.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2015/12/17/views-on-gaming-differ-by-race-ethnicity/

You keep missing the point. When you insert politics, right or left into any form of entertainment, you piss people off. When there is no politics, everyone is happy. Look at Deadpool and Wolverine or Top Gun Maverick. Compare the revenues from these movies to "The Marvels". The same thing is happening in video games. Star War Outlaws is shaping up to be a major flop and Ubisoft actually had to apologize to the Japanese people for the latest iteration of Assassin's Creed. It is hilarious to watch!!

Go woke go broke

Expand full comment

You might want to revisit this thread. Gamergate II is in full swing and the consequences for woke AAA games has been nothing short of disastrous This time, the gamers have YouTube, and they are winning.

The award for the biggest bomb of the year goes to Sony for Concord, a game in which you cannot play as a white male, but you can play as a morbidly obese black woman. I always thought that the “fat black mama” was a racist trope, but hey, what do I know about woke? The game sold so poorly that Sony shut things down and issued refunds to all who had bought it. Concord lost Sony $400 million.

I mentioned Rocksteady’s “Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League.” in a previous comment The game lost the studio $200 million, and the studio has suffered major layoffs.

The two largest, historically best loved, AAA gaming studios have been Ubisoft and Bioware. They have also just suffered huge losses. Let’s talk about them:

Ubisoft’s Star Wars outlaws, in which you play as an plain-looking 40-something woman sold around 1 million copies. With a game that likely cost over $200 million to produce, the sale of at least five million copies was required to breakeven. They may be in worse shape with Assassins Creed Shadows. The Assassins Creed franchise has always been a stickler for historical accuracy and that has been a big part of the appeal for these games. They changed things, however. Although shadows is set in feudal Japan, you cannot play as a Japanese male. You play as a black male and a hip-hop track starts when you start killing. The male character is a very big guy and showing him, mass-murdering much more diminutive Japanese males to hip-hop music is not a good look. The Japanese public has gone ballistic. Ubisoft added jet fuel to the fire when they showed a broken Torii Gate in their advertisement. The broken Torii Gate is a monument to Nagasaki in which 45,000 Japanese were killed by the atomic bomb. The result is that Ubisoft abruptly canceled a visit to the Tokyo Gaming Convention and delayed the release of Assassin’s Creed Shadows from November to February. Their stock has gone down by 80% and rumors abound that they will be sold.

The story for BioWare is even more tragic. BioWare has perhaps been the best loved studio for gamers for many years. They produced classic hits like KOTOR and Mass Effect. So, hopes were high when they announced a new Dragon Age game was coming out. Dragon Age has also been a very popular franchise. Then the game came out and it turned out to be a hot woke mess with a mediocre story and mediocre combat. A large part of the story revolves are a non-binary woman NPC named Taash. You cannot design your own character as either a male with muscles or a female with significant breasts and hips. You can, however, put top-surgery scars on your character. This game has been ten years in the making and rumors suggest that it has sold less than 500,000 copies to date. Most sales occur in the first week after release, so this is a catastrophic disaster. BioWare is currently working on Mass Effect 5 and if it is as disappointing as Dragon Age has been, EA will probably shut the studio down. Gamers really wanted to love the new Dragon Age game. They don’t! And that is quite sad.

Here is a link to one video out of many on the rise and fall of BioWare

Gaming's Biggest Tragedy: The Rise And Fall Of Bioware - YouTube

Now let’s look at the winners. Black Myth Wukong is by far the most popular game of the year, It has sold over 20 million copies and has been hugely profitable for its studio Game Science in China. It features a “monkey man” fighting his way through myths in Chinese folklore. Space Marines 2 is the best-selling Warhammer game on Steam. It is a hyper-macho, old-school shooter. It sold nearly 5 million copies on a development budget that was far less than that of the AAA games mentioned above. Stellar Blade is from a Korean studio and features very beautiful women as the main characters. All of these games have two things in common:

1) They are major financial successes.

2) The games are not political.

3) They have all been panned by the legacy gaming media for not being woke.

The gaming industry is a type-example of what you wrote a book on (yes, I read it). Out of touch symbolic capitalists are designing and positively reviewing games that no one wants to play.

Go woke! Go broke!

Expand full comment